Update 16 March 2021: Telkom sent me a customer satisfaction survey via email. I only noticed it because it landed in my junk mail folder. So I dutifully told them I am no longer one of their customers and I really don't care if they improve their service or not. They are on my "do not do business with these clowns" list, and will remain there until I get my money back.
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Thursday, January 09, 2020
Telkom is not a Phone Company
Update 16 March 2021: Telkom sent me a customer satisfaction survey via email. I only noticed it because it landed in my junk mail folder. So I dutifully told them I am no longer one of their customers and I really don't care if they improve their service or not. They are on my "do not do business with these clowns" list, and will remain there until I get my money back.
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Consumer Complaints,
Telkom
Tuesday, December 12, 2017
Telkom's R500 per month ripoff on a R229 FreeMe mobile contract
Finally I could go back to the store on Friday a week later. That's 72 hours if you only count the store opening hours, not the normal idea of 72 hours being 3 working days.
So I went to the store on Tuesday morning 7th November. The store opened late because they were too busy taking a group selfie inside than worrying about the queue of customers waiting outside.
So the first case number gets "resolved" but all they did was pass me a credit for R500. No refund, no explanation. I had to call them again to find out what was going on. That phone call took 20 minutes and achieved nothing. Basically the call centre's attitude is that you must go to the store. And the store's attitude is that you must contact the call centre. Imagine that. The "S" in Telkom definitely stands for Service.
In my case the first I knew about the R500 Spend Limit was on 6th November when it was rudely grabbed from my account. By then it was too late to do anything about September or October, and they could only stop it for 1st December. In onne of my many calls to their call centre I learnt that there is a default setting on their web site that would help reduce the extra charges. But it is turned off by default. That's because the whole scam is designed to catch the unwary or ignorant customer. It's been cleverly crafted by the crooks at Telkom to fleece their customers.
The "Out of Bundle Redirect" is switched off by default. If you switch it on then when the phone runs out of data, it redirects you to a page where you can buy more data. The default is "Never redirect, carry on browsing using my airtime. OOB rates apply", instead of "Always redirect service to OOB page". So when I found out about this page in November I was able to prevent the phone using additional data, but this didn't stop it from generating extra billing items by making calls. And it turns out that calls from Telkom Mobile to 1023 Directory Enquiries, are charged at R5 per call. That's a VAS rate call, but of course you don't find that out until the invoice arrives. Another part of their evil scheme.
Then they try the oldest trick in the book with mobile phones: you were using the phone so you are responsible for the charges. Or variations on the theme. What they fail to grasp is that I am not the user of the phone. The phone is used by a sales rep who works for commission only. I am merely the account holder. So I will not be held responsible for charges that I didn't authorize and are not part of the contract.
One other thing: unlike a Telkom land line contract, which you can pay in every month, the Telkom Mobile contract only works on a debit order, where they deduct the money from your account. And they think they can deduct whatever they like. And if you reverse a deduction they can claim that you have invalidated the contract. We'll see. I reversed the R931.90 amount because they were not authorized to deduct that amount. Let's see what they do next.
Update 12th December: Logged case number 22057592 with the Manager of the Cresta branch
Update 13th December: I discovered two different versions of the Telkom Mobile Subscriber Terms and Conditions. Neither one uses the term "Spend Limit".
Update 22nd December: Case number 22057592 still not attended to. Got a demand to pay R1160.90 to avoid the service being suspended. @TelkomZA responds to inquiry:
Update 2 January 2018: You can't make this stuff up. I dialled their help line and this is what I get:
There's always a pleasnat surprise on my Telkom invoice. This month its the outrageous R200.94 debit order "Payment Rejection fee". They think they can just deduct whatever they like.
Dear @TelkomZA where do I find the list of fees and charges for #mobile contracts? I can't find "payment rejection fee" anywhere on your web site. What is the URL or document name?— Donn Edwards 🇿🇦 (@donnedwards) January 2, 2018
Update 2 Feb 2018: It turns out that I was given a postpaid contract instead of a TopUp contract, so I had to go back to the Telkom Cresta Shop for a third time to fix it. And "Chad" doesn't work there any more. Why am I not surprised?
Update 8 Feb 2018: If you reverse a debit order, or the debit order fails, they charge you R200.94, even though this amount is not listed on their Tariff Card. If you pay in the R200.94 during the month, the balance of that month's invoice isn't deducted by debit order at the end of the month as it is supposed to. Instead, nothing is deducted, but the balance is carried over to the following month. Of course the Terms and Conditions are silent about this too. Nothing makes sense with the Telkom Accounts department.
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Business,
Consumer Complaints,
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Friday, October 07, 2016
Vumatel and Cool Ideas: A setup guide
So by the time the Vumatel technicians left at 2pm and the blue (power) light and the orange (FX) light were working, I was ready to go to the Cool Ideas office. All I needed was my bank details, and I took my ID book and proof of residence just in case. Cool Ideas are at Suite 207, Parktown Quarter, Corner 3rd Ave and 7th Ave, Parktown North, Gauteng. Its very confusing having a suburb where numbered avenues intersect with other numbered avenues, but I digress.
I got to step 4 of the Cool Ideas instructions and the wheels fell off, because the instructions assume you can connect to the WiFi part of the router. But Bheki had assured me that I could also connect using one of the 4 Ethernet ports on the router. So I plugged in a network cable from the WAN port on the router to the LAN1 port on the CPE, and then connected my PC's network cable to the LAN1 Ethernet port on the router. With my network connection set to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically" I assumed I would be able to connect. No such luck. So I called Bheki.
Here's and example with the old MWEB speed on the left of the graph. Then the connection is broken, and then the Vumatel connection is made. Carbonite (my online backup software) took off, and the upload speed went off the top of the graph. I actually had to tell Carbonite to throttle back its internet usage for a while. One of the "joys" of my MWEB connection was that they restrict P2P traffic at certain times of the day, particularly early evening. They call it "shaping". I call it annoying. No such restrictions with Cool Ideas, which is great.
What About MWEB?
Given that I upload about the same as I download, thanks to Carbonite's online backup running on 3 different machines, and given that my upload speed has just increased by a factor of 40, I'm not willing to risk going from 300GB per month to "only" 500Gb per month. Especially not on a "shaped" package at R999 per month.
Update Sunday 9 October: Cool Ideas don't offer POP, IMAP and/or SMTP services, so if you don't use Gmail or some other webmail service, you'll need to have an email-only account with your old ISP. I also did some random speed tests:
Not bad for a busy international cable connection. The one below is to the local Rosebank test server.
Compare those to the ones I did in May when my ADSL line started playing up. Both to the same Rosebank server:
This one, done at 6pm, didn't even finish:
Update Monday 10 October: It turns out that MWEB can send me my ADSL password in plain text. They claim it's encrypted. That's really not good from a security point of view. They also neglected to tell me that their new Capped packages don't allow for concurrent connections. They just don't specify whether they are or not. Bad advertising. But then they keep a lot of secrets these days.
Update Wednesday 12 October: It seems that Cool Ideas is a little less cool than I thought. If you have a complaint, you have to send it to "complaints@cisp.co.za"
@donnedwards please email us your address & contact details to social@vumatel.co.za so that we can follow up.
— vumatel (@vumatel) October 12, 2016
They claim that their "free installation" wording was put on the Vumatel site before the other entries, which followed later. I guess that's plausible, but still its not exactly clear advertising. They say they aren't like other ISPs. I'm starting to wonder what that means, exactly.@donnedwards @coolideas_ZA @vumatel That's not cool at all. Explains why Vumatel trying to bill me for installation. Misleading advertising.
— Justin J Williams (@jjza) October 12, 2016
[Their reply deleted as per their demand]
Their internet speeds and service may be better than MWEB, but the support ticket system is still broken, and my support ticket from last Friday remains "Open" and ignored. I'm not sure if the "take it or leave it" approach is going to earn them any friends in the long run.
Update Thursday 13th October: I decided to write to the co-founders of Cool Ideas:
Dear Paul Butschi and Andre JoosteUpdate Monday 17th October 2016:
I am writing to you to register my complaint about the misleading term “Free Installation” in relation to your Cool Ideas packages on the Vumatel portal site. I think the explanation that it refers to “free router installation” is unsatisfactory and misleading advertising. I am not the only new Cool Ideas customer who thought that it refers to the R1710 Vumatel installation fee.
I’m also perturbed by the “take it or leave it” attitude that seems to be part of your support culture. While I got great support while setting up my router, I am not at all impressed with the responses below. Nothing seems to have been done, other than fixing the mailbox for complaints.
I am therefore asking you guys as the founders of the company to intervene and fix the problem so I don’t have to go to the ISPA or ASASA to report false or misleading advertising.
Thanks in advance
Donn Edwards
Update Friday 21 October: After
Dear PaulI called Paul. They refuse to update their own website to clarify about the Vumatel installation cost. He seems to think I'm the only person who was "misled" and doesn't think it's worth their time to clarify matters and be honest with the public. After all, he's too busy running a business to actually care about the customers. How very sad.
Save yourself the legal costs. I have removed the “offending” email from my blog. Unfortunately you now look even more bolshy than before. And please cancel the R1710 credit. I wasn’t asking for money. I was asking you to treat your customer with respect. You have only partially succeeded.
Best wishes
Donn
I'm not sure that Paul's "dont't f**k with me or my business" arrogance is going to earn him much respect either. It certainly hasn't earned mine.
Labels:
Business,
Cool Ideas,
Life in South Africa,
MWEB,
Telkom,
Vumatel
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