tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post690986552399569891..comments2023-08-01T13:38:49.728+02:00Comments on Insights and Rants: The Great Defrag Shootout, and all the defragmentation utilities I can findDonn Edwardshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-41676892369453440422016-06-15T15:52:42.949+02:002016-06-15T15:52:42.949+02:00Anyways ... DiskTune is being revived as DiskTuna ...Anyways ... DiskTune is being revived as DiskTuna and has it's own new website: http://www.disktuna.comJoephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11500349022776596983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-9776500007866645942010-03-30T15:25:09.251+02:002010-03-30T15:25:09.251+02:00Your Reviews are outstanding.Thanks!!!Your Reviews are outstanding.Thanks!!!vesti srbijahttp://doktorrr.bravejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-31126797372672633952010-03-21T10:21:18.901+02:002010-03-21T10:21:18.901+02:00@Beth: I doubt it, but I will test it at some poin...@Beth: I doubt it, but I will test it at some point. Their web site only claims "This feature has the capability to improve the performance of your Windows System, leaving it far speedier."<br /><br />The performance of a defrag program is determined by:<br />a) The algorithm used by the program<br />b) The speed of the hard drive<br />c) Lack of interference from other programs or background tasks trying to use the hard drive.<br /><br />It is unlikely that a *third party* product could affect any of these except the last one. It certainly can't do much about (b) except perhaps tweak the system buffers slightly.Donn Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-39305358500749357702010-03-21T08:59:53.029+02:002010-03-21T08:59:53.029+02:00Hello, I've heard that regcure is quite good a...Hello, I've heard that <a href="http://www.registrycleaners-solutions.com.au/" rel="nofollow">regcure</a> is quite good at improving your systems defrag reate, do you know if this is true?<br /><br />BethBethhttp://www.registrycleaners-solutions.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-90054791263252710642010-02-15T18:03:06.873+02:002010-02-15T18:03:06.873+02:00I started a defrag of my system partition-100 gig,...I started a defrag of my system partition-100 gig,with only windows and program files on it.<br /><br />Two months ago I did a clean install,so there is only tow months of fragmentation on it...<br /><br />I started 39 hours ago, and still having to wait another 5:49 hours, which can easily add up to 7 or 8 hours - totalling to 47 hours - nearly two DAYS to defrag 100 gig!<br /><br />Wondering which monster program I used???! PARAGON Total Defrag! Nice huh!!! <br /><br />Not a normal thumbs down, but a HUGE THUMBS DOWNNNNNN!! <br /><br />Hope everything will work after all, since Ive readinthis post too, it can screw up "mov" files... What the F*CK!!!<br /><br /><br /><br />paragont total defragDutchboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-14830868272474691152009-11-20T10:30:32.697+02:002009-11-20T10:30:32.697+02:00Hi, Mr Edwards. I stumbled upon the program of Adv...Hi, Mr Edwards. I stumbled upon the program of Advanced Defrag when I was surfing the net to find a suitable defrag program for my computer. I had downloaded the full function trial of Advanced Defrag, so far it seems work great on my Vista computer, I really love the real-time defragment feature, and now I'm thinking to buy a copy of it. I'm wondering if you can write a review of it so that I can make my decision.<br /><br />JohnJohnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-37227746862083727482009-10-09T21:10:32.830+02:002009-10-09T21:10:32.830+02:00I didn't see Advanquest's "System Sui...I didn't see Advanquest's "System Suite 9" listed. It, too, as a nice defragger with process graphics that is schedulable. It also has a system wide 'cleaner' that you can run right before the defrag so you are not wasting time moving junk around. I would like to see how this compares to the others.<br />Thanks for the great blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-14440389305056527412009-09-09T14:41:04.198+02:002009-09-09T14:41:04.198+02:00Your list of reviews a lots. Which one work better...Your list of reviews a lots. Which one work better? I bored with in house vista defrag. It's so slow sometime make me cancel the program a while it launch. Thanks for your info.<br /><br />=============<br />My defrag tools<br />http://www.squidoo.com/advanceddefragshahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13443502790271138154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-57330813525362610722009-07-01T14:50:53.448+02:002009-07-01T14:50:53.448+02:00JkDefrag can move files from the end of the drive,...JkDefrag can move files from the end of the drive, including some $ files. Also, try PerfectDisk for defragmenting system files.Donn Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-26166988598632712622009-06-28T19:36:08.185+02:002009-06-28T19:36:08.185+02:00Is there a defragger that also moves the $meta fil...Is there a defragger that also moves the $meta files to the front of the hard drive? Sometimes I can't resize a hard drive because of the scattered $meta files at the rear of the drive. Maybe a linux program that can defrag a Windows partition. Any ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-75262992049393580992009-06-24T13:03:31.584+02:002009-06-24T13:03:31.584+02:00The Windows API has a function that allows parts o...The Windows API has a function that allows parts of files to be moved from one location to another. When a defrag program uses this API it has to decide what portion of the file to move, and where to move it.<br /><br />Only once the data has been copied will the Master File Table be updated to the new location, so if there is a problem the original location remains in use.<br /><br />It is up to the defrag program to decide how to defrag a group of files, and where to put the pieces that are "in the way" if there are any. THEORETICALLY you could defrag an entire disk that has only one free cluster, but defragmenting a file one cluster at a time is painfully slow.<br /><br />The time it takes to defragment a disk is mostly the time it takes to move the data, plus a bit of overhead for analysing the drive and deciding how to defrag the files. Bear in mind that big drives have a LOT of clusters to be moved, and in the case of a USB drive, the speed at which the data can be moved is extremely slow: usually slower than network copying.<br /><br />It is best to defragment external USB archive drives as little as possible, if at all. A fragmented archive is not that much slower than a defragmented one, especially if you only plan on copying it back in an emergency.Donn Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-49410750709416302042009-06-23T22:09:29.984+02:002009-06-23T22:09:29.984+02:00About defragmenting 1 TB disks:
I am not sure abou...About defragmenting 1 TB disks:<br />I am not sure about it, but what I think is that several defragmentators actually make a copy of the file they have to defragment, then defragment it and replace the original file (so that if your computer/defrag suddenly stops working, you wouldn't lose any infromation). <br /><br />So let's say that A is a movie, and the file placement goes like this: AABBACADDDADDA, where B, C, D are some random files. The defrag takes out AA__A_A___A__A (the bits of the movie), moves it to the free space on your disk, and starts defragging it. when it is ready - i.e. looks like AAAAAA, it has to put it back...but there are B, C and D files who occupy this place! So in our case in order to free up 6 cells for six "A" letters, it has to remove the "BB" and "C" blocks. <br /><br />So it copies fully to the free space the B and the C files , defrags them, puts "AAAAAA" back and starts looking for free space for the B and C files that are in the free space on the disk now.<br /><br />So basically it may have to copy to the free space on your disk several files - like B and C in our case -, and that may require some space.<br /><br />Obviously you can make a defrag that will just "cut" files from the disk (instead of copying), defrag it and put it back, put in this case if something bad happens to your computer, you may lose the file.Dacadeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872973298888415430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-88986948590321160132009-06-22T20:08:45.381+02:002009-06-22T20:08:45.381+02:00The Windows Defrag program has a "force"...The Windows Defrag program has a "force" option to allow for defrag in tight situations.<br /><br />Many other programs (PerfectDisk, JkDefrag, PuranDefrag) are not bothered by the % free, but if you only have 10GB free and you need to defrag a 100GB file you can't expect stellar results. 10% free is purely a rule of thumb. There is no theoretical barrier, but different algorithms require different conditions.<br /><br />The last time I tried this kind of defrag with Diskeeper it failed miserably.<br /><br />Bear in mind that if you are trying to defrag 1TB on a USB drive, it is going to take days, because of the slow interface speed of USB.Donn Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-10021322605238061892009-06-22T18:01:03.069+02:002009-06-22T18:01:03.069+02:00Does anyone know why the limit for minimum free sp...Does anyone know why the limit for minimum free space is given in % ?<br />I do not understand why it should not be easily possible to defrag a 1TB disk with only 1% free space.<br />I think that 10GB of free space should be plenty enough to rearrange fragmented files.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-54545632673952677712009-06-19T15:02:17.181+02:002009-06-19T15:02:17.181+02:00I have another 1 TB disk which I use for backups. ...I have another 1 TB disk which I use for backups. It is normally switched off. I switch it on about once a week to backup my data using rsync. I think that any "smart" defrag placements will also not make much sense with a backup disk.<br />I found that the disk was about 12% fragmented and it took about 1 week ! to get it consolidated. I tried PerfectDisk10, JKdefrag and SmartDefrag but all behaved similarly slow.<br />I will take look at OOdefrag 11 which claims to have a mechanism to defrag lately modified file in the background.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-33956165955315034692009-06-16T14:47:46.523+02:002009-06-16T14:47:46.523+02:002Anonymous
my favourite O&O defrag allows you ...2Anonymous<br />my favourite O&O defrag allows you also defragmentation by name, which may help you in your caseDacadeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872973298888415430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-84906784079830900002009-06-15T18:27:48.603+02:002009-06-15T18:27:48.603+02:00I greatly appreciate your work. It gave me many in...I greatly appreciate your work. It gave me many insights and also a bunch of tools to check out.<br />So far none of them satisfies my needs though.<br />I have a large 1 TB disk with media data and these change quite a bit when I update audio and picture meta-tags, create slideshows or movies, etc. <br />I think that these days there are many folks around with large media collections but the defragger makers do not seem to address the issue properly.<br />As the files are large they tend to fragment easily.<br />All of the tools I have tried take very long to defrag and it can easily take 24 hours to get a defrag run completed.<br />Rather than having my PC run 24 hours just to defrag I would greatly appreciate if defragmentation would be a constant background task.<br />Also the so called "intelligent" placement algorithm does not make much sense here as there is no preference in startup files and recent files are more likely NOT to be touched again. I suppose that free space consolidation is much more important in my case.<br />I write this to shine a light on defraggers from a different perspective and I hope to see more flexible defrag configurations in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-6322830227991858692009-06-07T16:15:21.548+02:002009-06-07T16:15:21.548+02:00Regarding O&O Defrag 11 and previous versions,...Regarding O&O Defrag 11 and previous versions, there is something I would like to know : how does O&O Defrag handles directory placement. Puran IMHO choses the best place , at the beginning of the partition.<br /><br />Also, I find that with Puran, you have a greater choice of settings, for instance you can select simple defrag + directory sorting and that's all.MerleOnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-74864534879289866922009-05-31T22:13:54.013+02:002009-05-31T22:13:54.013+02:00Hello!
This is my first year I looked at the defra...Hello!<br />This is my first year I looked at the defrags closely. That is what I've found out:<br /><br />1. Puran Defrag<br />I didn't actually like it. Obviously it is cheap and fast but it lacks flexibility (like PerfectDisk with 3 types of defrags or O&O with 5 types), and it did noy seem to defrag my drive very well (PerfectDisk and O&O analysis proved it). <br /><br />2.PerfectDisk<br />The interface is very nice, and...I think it is the only advantage. It consumes A LOT of resources while defragging (I think twice as much as O&O in one of its three most-consuming defragmentation ways), it takes a lot of time to defrag the whole disk and the finish time predictions are crappy and very inexact, and it also crashed my computer to a blue screen while defragging, and it didn't manage to reach full defragmentation. + it also lacks settings (compared to O&O)<br /><br />3. O&O <br />(By the way, the current version of O&O is 11, so I hope you will update your review)<br />excellent. It does not consume much resources, it is very flexible, the STEALTH mode brings fragmentation to zero in no time, the "remaining time" timer is extremely accurate (my defragmentation time differed from the predicted by something like 2 minutes)and it really does remove all the spaces on the disk... I mean I may be biased, but in my opinion this is the best defrag you could have for your computer.Dacadeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872973298888415430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-82449305242255143592009-03-20T12:20:00.000+02:002009-03-20T12:20:00.000+02:00Yet some other free defragmenters have been releas...Yet some other free defragmenters have been released :<BR/>> Quicksys Defragmenter (beta, free)<BR/>http://www.qdiskdefrag.com/<BR/><BR/>and <BR/><BR/>> MyDefrag, by JkDefrag author.<BR/>http://www.mydefrag.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-63546358924444269622009-03-11T18:20:00.000+02:002009-03-11T18:20:00.000+02:00Another product to be released :http://www.disktri...Another product to be released :<BR/>http://www.disktrix.com/defragexpress_screenshots.htm<BR/><BR/>A simplified version of Ultimate Defrag 2008 with a more classical display.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-81570733321652297692009-01-23T16:02:00.000+02:002009-01-23T16:02:00.000+02:00I have been using SmartDefrag from IOBit, latest b...I have been using SmartDefrag from IOBit, latest build, and find it a really nice tool (and freeware). It now supports auto-defrag when system is idle, and one can exclude files based on size criteria, which is even better than manual selection of excluded files. Re-defrag are usually very quick, which is a grzat plus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-57533160917165890512009-01-23T09:34:00.000+02:002009-01-23T09:34:00.000+02:00@Anonymous: I'm surprised to hear this again. Send...@Anonymous: I'm surprised to hear this again. <B>Send another email.</B>. I had a similar problem once before, but they did answer and sort out the issue.Donn Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07954994300802439618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-28040598221409277902009-01-22T21:47:00.000+02:002009-01-22T21:47:00.000+02:00Stay away from Disktrix UltimateDefrag, it has not...Stay away from Disktrix UltimateDefrag, it has not provided any support.<BR/>Did not reply to any support questions. All I get, is they will reply in 48 hours. Then nothing.<BR/><BR/>Ask for a refund a 3 weeks ago (website says 100% "No Questions Asked" Money Back Satisfaction Guarantee. If you are unsatisfied with your purchase simply contact us within 30 days for a full 100% refund - no questions asked.) with no response from them. I get the auto response from them and thats it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19298483.post-12160171785055818882009-01-09T17:09:00.000+02:002009-01-09T17:09:00.000+02:00Dear iyer!I didn't give a thumbs up for Paragon, b...Dear iyer!<BR/><BR/>I didn't give a thumbs up for Paragon, but for jkdefrag!<BR/><BR/>That does quite a good job.<BR/><BR/>But only on a workstation, servers, which tend to run 24/7/365, so no wee hours to defrag, should rely on a controlled fragmentation file system like the old Berkeley Fast File System for BSD *NIX.<BR/><BR/>OS/2's HPFS inherited from it, and early versions of NTFS.<BR/><BR/>ext2 and ext3 have a similar strategy.<BR/><BR/>I hope I have clarified my point.<BR/><BR/>Kind regards<BR/><BR/>GnorUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213488739976414930noreply@blogger.com